Rather than take down a recent comment about scamming on The Berm, I thought it would be more useful to provide a quick rundown of why we get spammers, what they do, why your privacy is safe and what The Berm can do about it.
Like anyone, spammers are able to become members of The Berm by going through the joining up process. When they've joined up, they use software to automatically post comments on other members' 'My Page' along the lines of give us some money, or they want to marry you. To be honest, for most people the scam will be pretty obvious.
What happens next is, as when you get any comment on your 'My Page', The Berm sends an email to your login email address to tell you there is a message waiting for you at The Berm. SPAMMERS CANNOT EMAIL YOU DIRECTLY, AND YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS IS NOT PUBLIC OR ACCESSABLE TO ANYONE EXCEPT ADMINISTRATORS WITH RIGHTS (CURRENTLY = ME).
Like anyone, spammers are able to become members of The Berm if they want to try hard enough. Ning (the provider of The Berm's platform) is very good at identifying and weeding spammers out at the stage they provide their email address on the joining page, and The Berm's database of email addresses to reject gets bigger each time someone get through. If they get this far, we have a reasonably useful defence built into the joining process with a Capcha function and a question designed to require a bit of research to answer if you're not an Aussie, the idea being spammers normally want quick wins and will move on if it's deemed too hard to join up.
For this reason we're now only getting one spammer coming through every couple of months or so.
Once they get through, we have a few people with basic admin rights who keep an eye on new joining members and will remove anyone that looks like a spammer (and all of their content) as soon as we see one.
Unfortunately because we all need sleep, we cannot monitor the site 24 hours a day, so occasionally someone will get through. That's life, but I bet you get more scammers on your mobile phone or direct to your home email than we do at The Berm.
OK how can we reduce spammers joining to zero? Well if you'd like to volunteer to cover the midnight to 7am monitoring shift, please shout out.
We could make it so that an administrator has to approve any new members before they get in. If you would like to apply for this position, please comment below. You have to be available to access your email inbox and respond to joining requests within a short period of time, 24/7 (or share with others to do so). I've shied away from this because I want to increase The Berm's membership. Personally if I want to join a forum it's because I have seen a discussion I'd like to join too. I don't want to potentially wait until the next day to be approved, which would happen here sometimes - I can't access my personal emails at work, admins go on holiday, their computer breaks or whatever. At the moment we're not that well organised.
If you've got any thoughts or comments on this please post them here or send me a message. I see spamming as something that any forum will experience and I think we deal with it much better than most. I hope this post helps to dispel some of the assumptions you may have had about your email privacy.
Now get out and ride!
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Permalink Reply by Hernan Flores on September 22, 2011 at 9:21 oops sorry if I came of as alarmist, I never intended to sound like Berm was responsible in any way, thought was furthest from my mind. I only named The Berm because after reading my initial post I thought it could be interpreted as just a random rant about scams, so I felt the warning would better serve if I mentioned it happened within the Berm community.
Assuming that if some one was liable to fall for the scam, then they may have trouble putting two and two together without some assistance, rendering the warning useless to it's intended target.
my bad
yours not an alarmist
Hernan
Permalink Reply by Snakehips on September 22, 2011 at 10:27 Hey Hernan,
No offence taken, and I hope I didn't label you forever as a drama queen or anything! I think it's great that you pointed out the issues with scammers and it triggered me to explain the major concern of most which is that members' email privacy is pretty safe.
I've edited my post as I think the 'alarmist' point has been dealt with now.
See ya on the trails! Morgan
Permalink Reply by Steve K on September 22, 2011 at 11:40
Permalink Reply by Hernan Flores on September 22, 2011 at 15:06 haw haw yeh all good, and I hope I didn't label you for ever as over defensive or anything! kak so long as everybody's happy! oh and FYI I prefer the term drama king.
happy trails H
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